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    Image of 201curzonst 201curzonst
    11/06/09

    In reply to Sick! The Daily Show Spoofs Glenn Beck
    Song of Glenn Beck:

    O is for Obama, and by the way he’s black
    L is for the leftists who will stab you in the back
    I is internationalist, ‘cause foreigners are scary
    G is politicians’ graft of which we should be wary
    A the Acorn organizers meaning death camps for us all
    R the revolutionaries who want me first against the wall
    C is for the commies, who hide under my bed
    H for hidden agendas; oh! The secrets in my head!

    Y you ask? I’ll tell you straight; my answer fills the void
    It’s very clear my friends, I am a hopeless paranoid!
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    11/06/09

    In reply to Sick! The Daily Show Spoofs Glenn Beck
    OH REALLY? ORGANS CAN'T ORGAN-IZE?

    So amazing. #dailyshowglennbeck
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    11/06/09

    In reply to Sick! The Daily Show Spoofs Glenn Beck
    soul mates. #dailyshowglennbeck
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    11/06/09

    In reply to Sick! The Daily Show Spoofs Glenn Beck
    What is he talking about?! Nothing I've ever heard Glen Beck say makes any sense whatsoever. So he's saying that liberals are wrong for thinking oil companies are bad, and the reason we're wrong is because Rockefeller was a secret communist? Or is he saying that when we poo-poo oil companies we're really dissing on our own people because Rockefeller was a communist, which means all oil companies are communist, and since all liberals are communists, we're hypocrites for hating oil companies? Whenever I see Glen Beck, I feel like I'm on drugs. #dailyshowglennbeck
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    11/06/09

    In reply to Sick! The Daily Show Spoofs Glenn Beck
    Glenn Beck, communism and fascism are not the same things. In fact, they are at opposite ends of the political spectrum. #dailyshowglennbeck
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    11/06/09

    @pepe-silvia: While communism is on the tail end of spectrum of liberalism, fascism is on the tail end of what? Conservatism. Yes, so while Glenn Beck can call us crazy commies, we can call his side crazy fascists. #dailyshowglennbeck
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    11/06/09

    In reply to Zoe Kravitz For Vera; Mary-Kate & Ashley Close Beauty Line
    Anointed! Like Christ? So funny. I love your posts on the Kimberly Process in Zim and on the Goldstone scarves! Fashion matters, people. #ragtrade
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    11/06/09

    In reply to Sick! The Daily Show Spoofs Glenn Beck
    Did anyone else notice that Beck said "you've seen this if you or your wife watch the Today show." So he assumes that everyone who watches his show is a married heterosexual man? Sure, that makes sense demographically speaking, but I think it indicates that Beck doesn't think women watch or care about political analysis. (Although in his case, "analysis" is certainly relative). #dailyshowglennbeck
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    11/06/09

    In reply to Zoe Kravitz For Vera; Mary-Kate & Ashley Close Beauty Line
    I am not trying to be mean, but Lily Cole's cakes are probably not very good. Cooking allows for many freedoms (and that salad she's describing sounds delicious) but baking is a science and requires precise amounts to turn out properly.

    /cookie nerd #zoekravitz
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    11/06/09

    @LvV: Definitely. One of my friends is a stellar cook and a terrible baker, because she can't just toss things in. She claims it's boring.

    I claim it's just as creative; you just have to be carefully creative. #zoekravitz
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    11/07/09

    @LvV: I know a guy who bragged that he made awsome cakes just like Lily Cole, mixing this and that, and guessing the amounts. The one time I actually tasted his cake, it was dense and horrible, but I didn't have the heart to say so. He's a really nice, generous person. I suspect something similar's going on with Cole and her friends. #zoekravitz
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    11/06/09

    In reply to Zoe Kravitz For Vera; Mary-Kate & Ashley Close Beauty Line

    Olivier Zahm: Definitely has Booger's hair. #zoekravitz
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    Image of thespaceygirl thespaceygirl
    11/06/09

    In reply to Sick! The Daily Show Spoofs Glenn Beck
    It's upsetting that no one here has watched a full episode of Glenn Beck. Watching clips online doesn't really frame his ideas correctly.

    He's playing a character, trying to stress his ideas. Sure, he comes across as manic, passionate, and a bit crazy, so most liberals dismiss him. But he makes some good points. Some of his logic stretches the truth, but not all. Some are things that need to be said.

    I love Jezebel, but I think most readers are too liberal, too passive, and too idealogical to respond accurately to Glenn Beck's arguements.

    Perhaps it's my Russian boyfriend's fears that the US is turning into a country that he can't be proud of, but I really believe that we are all too cynical to listen to what people have to say. We just automatically dismiss anything that sounds a little off, and we never question what we are told by the media. (I also fall into this category.)

    ( BTW I'm not a conservative. I'm just someone who is always in the middle of all these arguements. My friends and family fall into both extremes. And I'm always torn between my love of Stewart/Colbert and "liberal news"; and my understanding of Glenn Beck and real news programs on Fox.)

    I think everyone should watch Fox News occassionally and NBC etc. to get different perspectives. Nothing is one way or the other. Too bad most people I know make fun of Fox News. Why? Because of the clips they've seen on Stewart and Colbert. Not because they've actually watched Fox news for themselves. #dailyshowglennbeck
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    angelina jolie-laide is a gaudy tulip promoted this comment thespaceygirl was starred thespaceygirl was unstarred
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    11/06/09

    @thespaceygirl: I actually have watched Beck on TV and listened to his radio show, for exactly the reason you state - I'm in the media and I constantly urge people to check out other news sources and perspectives, on the airwaves, in print and on line.

    I think Beck has carved out a very nice niche for himself with people who feel they have no voice in democracy and government right now. But the more I watch and listen to him, the crazier he sounds to me. He often talks about how "they" are trying to shut him down or how "they" are against him. He says the sole job of Anita Dunn - the White House Communications Director - is to monitor his show. He says things that are blatantly inflammatory and possibly slanderous, and then says he was just "asking questions". And if he's not crazy, then he's just a performer. I don't know if that's better or worse for the people who believe what he says. #dailyshowglennbeck
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    11/06/09

    @thespaceygirl: I've watched a full episode of Glenn Beck. Actually, my husband and I listen to conservative radio almost every day, because we like to hear what's going on from their perspective. I've always been liberal, but all my life I've said that I'm not biased. In recent years, though, it's been more and more difficult, and I've gotten to the point where, yeah, I'm biased. As a person who listens to Beck and Hannity frequently, I can say they what they spout is out-and-out garbage. I admire your ability to remain open-minded, but I just can't. The reason I make fun of Fox news personalities is because I pay attention to what they say, and it is laughable. #dailyshowglennbeck
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    11/06/09

    @thespaceygirl: this argument has been hashed out before on the site re: glenn beck. most responses to you will be: yes, i've seen glenn beck's show and fox and bill o'reilly and, no, i don't have to take any of them seriously. i don't get all my news from stewart/colbert because npr is awesome.

    i also don't think it's fair to characterize jezebel readers as passive: only a small portion of them actually comment and, even then, i don't think any of them sound particularly passive. i don't know what "too liberal" means.

    glenn beck is crazier the more you watch him not less (clips on the web).
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    Her Grace promoted this comment Edited by carinamarie at 11/06/09 12:32 PM carinamarie was starred carinamarie was unstarred
    Image of lalie (apologetic mess) lalie (apologetic mess)
    11/06/09

    @thespaceygirl: But the problem is, that there is a great number of people who watch him who don't understand that he is exaggerating his character (just as Bill O'Reilly arguably does). I've watched FOX at length and it is quite hard to parse it out at times.

    To use an anecdote: I've had my cousin legitimately tell me that he thinks - from watching Glenn Beck - that Obama is going to make every family in the US pay $116,000 in taxes on top of their other taxes, and when I tried to refute that my uncle (not cousin's dad, to be clear) called me a communist. He went on to state all the ways in which Glenn Beck is right and communist and socialist policies are evil and are destroying America; this particular uncle is on unemployment, welfare, food stamps, and is applying for Section 8 housing. And he doesn't see his ideas and actions as being at all discordant - he just has no real idea of what socialism actually is.

    Glenn Beck is too unclear about where the news and facts end and where his persona starts, and that's where I have an issue with him. He's promoting radical - and sometimes, untrue and harmful - ideas in a radical fashion that many of his viewers are taking at face value*. Unfortunately, I kind of assume the worst of Fox News; they know who their target market is and cater to it with these crazy ideas and misinformation. To perpetuate stereotypes and blatant lies about Muslim beliefs, or the idea that a real American is the kind that carries guns in the direct vicinity of the president.... that's horrific, in my opinion. Beck in particular is using his persona and the unclear nature of his hyperbole to mix fact and opinion, and that is, quite frankly, dishonest.

    *NB: Not to say this, or the essence of it, is only a problem with Glenn Beck. Too many people are allowing the analysis of pundits to form their ideas for them rather than thinking critically for themselves.
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    Dictator for Life promoted this comment Edited by lalie (apologetic mess) at 11/06/09 12:42 PM lalie (apologetic mess) was starred lalie (apologetic mess) was unstarred
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    11/06/09

    @thespaceygirl: I respectfully disagree. My dad is super liberal and watches Fox News non-stop "to keep up with the enemy" and when I'm at home, I watch it too. And I find it ridiculous and revolting. Bill O'Reilly talks about lesbian gangs indoctrinating people (an internet urban legend). Why, exactly, should I take them seriously? #dailyshowglennbeck
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    Image of Rose.Selavy.Needs.A.Drink Rose.Selavy.Needs.A.Drink
    11/06/09

    @thespaceygirl: A bit crazy? He's a paranoid, hate spewing lunatic. I think the only thing this old lefty lesbian has in common with GB is we both need air to breathe. Aside from that, nada.

    You understand Beck and Fox News? Congratulations. You are one up on me since I can't understand why they are taken seriously when they misrepresent facts and promote lies.

    To each her own, eh? #dailyshowglennbeck
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    11/06/09

    @thespaceygirl: Actually, I grew up watching Fox daily (unintentionally; my mom has it on all the time) until I was 19 and moved out of the house. I still see it everytime I go home. So I would say that I'm very aware of what Fox has to offer. Sometimes I do see grains of truth peeking out somewhere, but not all that often, and the sensationalism and hate overshadow them.

    I don't watch CNN or MSNBC (well, I do watch Rachel Maddow sometimes) either, though, because I think they lean too conservative, don't challenge favorable politicians enough or on the most pressing topics, and tend not to report on things I care about. However, I don't see the hate speech that I see on Fox, so I hold these networks in slightly less contempt.

    Anyway, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss us as too liberal or idealogical to question what's told to us in the media. The brand of "liberalism" I see on Jezebel (most of the time) is the kind that helps us to deconstruct what we're told, regardless of the source. That's what I love about it. #dailyshowglennbeck
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    11/06/09

    @lalie (apologetic mess): I totally agree. #dailyshowglennbeck
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    11/06/09

    @thespaceygirl: I actually tried to watch Glenn Beck last night after Jon Stewart had me rolling on the floor laughing, but regretfully his show was not airing due to the coverage of the Fort Hood tragedy.

    Of course, the coverage of that was so despicable that I still had to change the channel. I listened for five minutes to a general ranting about how the gunman was educated with American money, and this is how he repays us??? Oh god, man, seriously? I think he repaid us by serving in the military for years and it sounds like something snapped in his brain, man. He was trying to make it sound like the dude had been planning it since he was in med school or something. I'm terrified as to how this is going to translate for other Arab-Americans.
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    Her Grace promoted this comment Edited by nourbatta at 11/06/09 2:18 PM nourbatta was starred nourbatta was unstarred
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    11/06/09

    @thespaceygirl: I don't watch the news. It's useless, brainwash propaganda/entertainment packaged as "news".

    Too liberal? No offense but hogwash! No-one is completely liberal or conservative. I think most people (if they weren't so rigid and caught up in labels) would see value in the ideas of both sides and fall somewhere in the middle.

    Bottom line MSNBC, FOX and CNN are pathetic and shouldn't be watched by anyone. You're better off getting news from international outlets. If you're not sure which ones to read, Google News is sort of cool, they link to multiple outlets for each story and a lot of their links are to foreign outlets. #dailyshowglennbeck
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    11/06/09

    @kiwibelle: Yay! I actually agree with you entirely. #dailyshowglennbeck
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    11/06/09

    @thespaceygirl: I find it hilarious that you assume "no one" here has watched a full episode of Glenn Beck because many of the commenters think he is nuts. We think he's nuts BECAUSE we've seen the full episodes.

    What the hell do you think I watch at the gym when I need to get my heart rate up? Either Beck or O'Reilly, I seriously burn at least 20% more calories when I watch O'Reilly, and maybe 25% more when I watch Beck. Thanks to them, I'll be running a half-marathon in no time at all. Rachel Maddow can't make me look that good in a bikini. #dailyshowglennbeck
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    11/06/09

    In reply to Zoe Kravitz For Vera; Mary-Kate & Ashley Close Beauty Line
    True confessions: I have actually worn the mary-kateandashley makeup. They made a really kick ass gold metallic eye shadow pencil that I used to rock in high school. #zoekravitz
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    11/06/09

    @Zombie Ms. Skittles: I still have a couple of their eyeshadows. I've had them for years and should probably toss them, but now it's like they're a relic or something ... #zoekravitz
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    11/06/09

    @Zombie Ms. Skittles: They had a peach flavored sparkly lip gloss that was *the shit*. I still have a tube of it somewhere... #zoekravitz
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    11/07/09

    @Zombie Ms. Skittles: I have too! I bought a bunch of it at once, like 5 years ago, because they had things packaged together and then they were buy one get one free, and they were cheap. It was good makeup, especially the lip gloss. I used everything until they were done and I still have the dark brown eyeliner.

    It is a little embarrassing. One of my friends peeked in my makeup bag and was like "I didn't know you were a Mary Kate and Ashley fan" #zoekravitz
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    11/06/09

    In reply to Zoe Kravitz For Vera; Mary-Kate & Ashley Close Beauty Line
    I have very strong opinions about Eileen Fisher. I worked in a boutique that sold her things when I was in college and, regardless of the "image" she's going for (fuck, it's fashion), she IS a godsend to a lot of women. If you can sell a cute pair of linen drawstring pants in XS to a 19 year old like me and dress a size 22 who is 50 and a professional, you're doing something right.

    Fisher's ads feature a pretty wide range of women (ages, races and yes, sizes). She doesn't need to target the plus-size market because they already flock to her.

    Also, Rosie bugs me. Does Donna Karan go for a plus size image? No. #ragtrade
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    11/06/09

    @Penny: It's not my kind of style, but Eileen Fisher clothing seems to be very well made. Many of the brands catering to plus sizes seem to be very cheaply made.

    If I go to a higher end department store and look at plus sizes, the style is very dowdy and matronly. There are young, plus size women who have the money to buy nice things.
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    hortense promoted this comment Edited by lilyHaze at 11/06/09 12:09 PM lilyHaze was starred lilyHaze was unstarred
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    11/06/09

    @Penny: I agree about the designs -- I actually love some of Eileen Fisher's pieces. (Most of them I stole from my mum, but you know.)

    However, it is true the company is consciously chasing a younger "hipper" customer -- they certainly collaborated with a Times article stating same -- and that strikes me as foolish.

    And if Fisher herself said what O'Donnell reports, to her very face, that is just downright mean.
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    11/06/09

    @Jenna: Ah, well, I have admittedly not paid much attention to the company in recent years (besides seeing ads here and there). Bummer. #zoekravitz
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    11/06/09

    @Penny: But Rosie still bugs me :-) #zoekravitz
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    11/06/09

    @Jenna: I agree. I'm not one to ditch good design willy nilly, but Fisher's rudeness to a happy, loyal customer tells me I shouldn't express any more gratitude to Eileen Fisher with my hard-earned money because clearly my fat behind insults her business.

    Famous person talking about and wearing your clothes = great advertising. Famous person telling fans how rude and ungrateful clothing designer is = bad advertising. That's how social media works, lady. #zoekravitz
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    11/06/09

    In reply to Zoe Kravitz For Vera; Mary-Kate & Ashley Close Beauty Line
    Zac Efron can wear my favorite jeans for eight weeks to get them to look "perfectly lived-in." I don't mind. Honestly. #ragtrade
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    11/06/09

    @madeofawesome: I'd like to see if his theory works on my bed, and I'm willing to hire him to find out. #zoekravitz
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    11/06/09

    In reply to Zoe Kravitz For Vera; Mary-Kate & Ashley Close Beauty Line
    Ugh, the Kimberley Process is worthless. #ragtrade
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    11/06/09

    @pantsless economist...access RESTORED: A shiny rock is not worth the prices paid in human suffering. #zoekravitz
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    11/06/09

    In reply to Zoe Kravitz For Vera; Mary-Kate & Ashley Close Beauty Line
    She's being knighted by President Obama...

    I didn't know the President was able to do this. Are we in England? #ragtrade
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    11/06/09

    @Penny: "...And then, he's gonna make her Lady Wintour, Viscountess of 4 Times Square, and Marchioness of the Leaping Brazilians, and he'll take her as his vassal for Long Island, and then they'll all eat pizza and cupcakes." #zoekravitz
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